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Um, and I think that that's going to be the real, you know, that that's the real opportunity and that, you know, at least that's what we're shooting for and that's what I would encourage parents to shoot for.","startTime":624.8,"endTime":638.9590000000001,"durationSeconds":14,"level":"C1","overallScore":8.8,"rationale":"AI 필요성과 기회 논리가 촘촘함."},{"segmentIndex":33,"text":"In order to you know, issue orders, you must learn how to follow orders. and you know you kind of try to keep him with some level of structure in his life and not just and structure in his life and not just pure agency but yeah I mean and so look you know some rules are important and so forth but yeah no look there is like a huge b there's just a huge premium in life on being somebody who is able to like fully take responsibility for things fully take charge run an organization lead a project create something new um and you know maybe yeah that has been maybe a little bit diminished in our culture over the last 30 years it you know it's healthy you know that there's now a term for that is coming back into vogue and then and again that's how I view AI for kids is like okay AI should be the ultimate letter on the world for a kid with agency to be able to say okay I can actually be a primary contributor right whether that's I can be a primary contributor in everything from you know developing new areas of physics to writing code to being an artist uh you know to writing novels like you know whatever that thing is I can fully participate in the world I can really change things and I that feel that The combination of that idea combined with this technology feels very healthy to me.","startTime":930.959,"endTime":945.68,"durationSeconds":15,"level":"C1","overallScore":9,"rationale":"agency와 AI 교육 철학이 응축됨."},{"segmentIndex":38,"text":"And you know they there was this the he spent you know decades trying to figure out this thing called the philosopher stone which would be basically the machine or the process that would be able to transmute the rare you know the common thing into the rare thing led into gold and he never figured it out and you know it's incredibly frustrating nobody ever figured that out and now we literally with AI have a technology that transfers sand into thought [laughter] >> just blew my mind >> right the most common thing in the world which is sand converted into the most rare thing in the world which is Right.","startTime":1027.919,"endTime":1058.64,"durationSeconds":31,"level":"C1","overallScore":9,"rationale":"AI 비유가 매우 선명하고 인상적."},{"segmentIndex":3,"text":"And basically it turns out it's just it's very hard to improve educational outcomes except there's one method that always does it which is called the it's called the bloom two sigma effect which is there's one method of education that routinely raises student outcomes by two standards of deviation and will take a kid from the 50th percentile to the 99th percentile and that's oneonone tutoring right so again if you go back to like at n equals one you have a kid and a tutor and they're in this like you know very tight loop with each other you know where the kid is able to constantly kind of be on the leading edge of what they're capable of doing and they can they you know they can move incredibly past and they get kind of correction in real time, you get these better outcomes. 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deepseek you know came out of left field and basically was like a you know re-implementation of a lot of the ideas under American big labs and you know and had some original ideas of its own um but like you know wow it wasn't that hard for you know some you know basically a hedge fund in China to do it and so like how much defensibility is there but on the other side of it you've got wow all these big labs are now paying you know individual engineers like they're rock stars um and they're you know incredibly bright and creative people um and you know maybe there's you know a dozen nent ideas in any one of these labs that it's actually going to be a huge breakthrough that's going to be hard to replicate and so again it's just like I think we just need to I don't know my views I my view I need to put like a big discount on my forecasting ability on this one like it for me it's much less interesting to try to say okay as a consequence industry structure in five years is going to be X the 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Um, and so again, this is this level this and so again, this is this level of latent superpower like you know, people who really want to like improve themselves and like develop their career should be spending every spare hour in my view at this point talking to an AI being like,\"All right, train me up like tell me tell supermpower me, tell me how to, you know, train me how to be, you know, I'm a coder.","startTime":3553.28,"endTime":3569.28,"durationSeconds":16,"level":"C1","overallScore":8.8,"rationale":"AI 자기계발 활용법을 구체적으로 제안."},{"segmentIndex":6,"text":"Like if all you know is like single function I asked and it gave me back something that's not good like what do you even do what do you like what do you even do with that right like you don't understand why it gave you that result do you really understand even what do you even understand what to tell it to try to get it to do something different but to your point like if you actually w if you actually watch what it's doing um and then you have the grounding you know kind of that leg of the of your ear or your F um if you have that grounding then you can be like oh I see what it's doing I see where it made the mistake I see where it went sideways and then you're all of a sudden able to intervene and able to say no that's not what I meant do this other thing right and so and again this is a big part of having the actual kind of you know synergistic relationship um is that you understand and by the way look I mean this is like everything I'm saying is you know everything that we're saying right now also is the same as if you're working with human beings right like you know if you and I are colleagues and I you know ask you to do something you'd come back with something completely different like I do need to understand what was happening in your head right in order to be able to get do need to give you feedback right if I just tell you oh that's wrong it doesn't like nothing happens.","startTime":3626.96,"endTime":3687.839,"durationSeconds":61,"level":"C1","overallScore":9,"rationale":"핵심 통찰과 실전 표현이 매우 풍부."}],"generatedAt":"2026-06-25T00:41:51.942Z","keyClipsTotalSec":1726}]}