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So, when I learned about strategy, it sort of just more resonated and said,\"Oh, that's what dad does.\"","startTime":511.199,"endTime":519.039,"durationSeconds":8,"level":"B2","overallScore":7.2,"rationale":"전략 개념을 삶과 연결한 회고."},{"segmentIndex":67,"text":"And in some sense, I was trained at the kitchen table >> on strategy.","startTime":529.12,"endTime":536.32,"durationSeconds":7,"level":"B2","overallScore":6.8,"rationale":"배움의 원천을 비유적으로 보여줌."},{"segmentIndex":7,"text":"you said okay didn't know much about strategy and everything but I think it's those simple things and those simple ideas sometimes hook the customer right oh absolutely I mean and it's I think it's respectful right >> um so if you put the price up front and say this is the price one interpretation could say oh aren't you being arbitrary u but it's not really it's saying I don't give anybody else a better price than this.","startTime":632.88,"endTime":640.32,"durationSeconds":7,"level":"C1","overallScore":7.2,"rationale":"가격정책의 의미를 통찰 있게 설명함."},{"segmentIndex":14,"text":"Um I don't think so. 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