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영상은 Anthropic의 그로스 리더가 AI 제품에서 성장팀이 실제로 무엇을 하는지 설명하며, 특히 '성공의 부작용' 때문에 생기는 스케일 문제를 어떻게 다루는지 이야기한다. 성장 업무의 대부분은 acquisition, activation, monetization 같은 전통적 범주와 같지만, 급격한 성장 속도 때문에 예상치 못한 장애를 처리하는 데 많은 시간이 쓰인다고 말한다. 또한 AI 제품에서는 모델 성능이 계속 바뀌기 때문에 온보딩과 활성화가 더 중요해졌고, 사용자가 제품의 능력을 제대로 이해하도록 설계하는 일이 핵심이라고 강조한다.\n\n후반부에서는 Mercury에서 했던 온보딩 개선 경험을 예로 들며, 좋은 제품 경험이 곧 성장이라는 관점을 공유한다. 복잡한 규제 환경의 온보딩 흐름을 한 분기 동안 품질 개선에 집중했던 사례를 통해, 때로는 단기 지표보다 첫 경험의 완성도가 더 중요하다고 주장한다.","insights":["성장팀의 본업은 성장 가속보다 성장 부작용 처리다.","AI 제품은 활성화가 더 중요해질수록 더 어려워진다.","모델이 빨리 바뀌면 고정된 온보딩 실험은 금방 낡는다.","좋은 제품일수록 첫 경험의 품질이 성장을 좌우한다.","적절한 마찰은 전환을 줄이기보다 정렬을 높인다."],"keyClips":[{"clipId":"k-H4nsOTuxU:c1:10-20","startSegmentIndex":10,"endSegmentIndex":20,"startTime":681.04,"endTime":800.24,"durationSeconds":119.2,"preview":"성장팀의 진짜 일","mustSee":false},{"clipId":"k-H4nsOTuxU:c1:21-26","startSegmentIndex":21,"endSegmentIndex":26,"startTime":800.24,"endTime":832.44,"durationSeconds":32.2,"preview":"투자 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